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Old 05-15-2008, 02:22 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Ducks cap hit for 2008/09 right now is $49.8 million (17 players signed). They can't afford to pay Perry even about $5 million without cutting other players first (you only have a limited time to get under the cap - so you not only have to trade a player you wouldn't normally do but do so within a time limit that other GM's are aware of).

About $5 million will cost the Canucks a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick in 2009.

Even if Burke decides to match and deal say Schneider for a pick - it makes the Ducks weaker. Anything that makes them weaker is a plus for the Canucks - as they *still* will have to make cuts elsewhere in their lineup.

Note: I don't have a problem dealing a mid-level 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick in 2009 (I'm assuming we'll make the playoffs - a reasonable assumption) but I wouldn't deal a top ten pick (ie., 2008 picks).
They would trade Bertuzzi or Schneider long before they'd consider not matching their young power forward who led the team in goals eventhough he missed over a quarter of the games. So we'd get nothing out of it other than the Ducks paying a million more than they normally would and every GM in the league hating us.
Just not gonna happen.

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Old 05-16-2008, 12:54 AM   #172 (permalink)
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They would trade Bertuzzi or Schneider long before they'd consider not matching their young power forward who led the team in goals eventhough he missed over a quarter of the games.
Bertuzzi would be extremely tough to unload - unlike Schneider who *does* have value. At the trading deadling - somebody *may* take a chance on him - but doubtful at the start of the season (Mike Keenan ain't GM anywhere).

And frankly, I don't get this "the whole league will hate us if we give an offer sheet" thing. It's in the rules so it's not illegal. It's been attempted before Lowe (Leafs gave one to Ohlund for example). It's (offer sheet) isn't being done to spite another team - it's being done for a specific purpose to fill a real need. It's not going to have an inflationary effect on salaries (ie., we're not going to offer him a $7 million dollar 7 year salary).

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Old 05-16-2008, 01:01 AM   #173 (permalink)
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i'd text my friends that we signed some sub par player to a ridiculous contract when he has no way of checking to find out if he's bull$^@#ing him.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:06 AM   #174 (permalink)
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Is Anaheim up against the cap counting Neidemyer's salary or without it. He might just retire again and the Ducks could easily sign Perry. Weight's salary comes off the books as well this year I believe he made around 3 mil.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:17 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Is Anaheim up against the cap counting Neidemyer's salary or without it. He might just retire again and the Ducks could easily sign Perry. Weight's salary comes off the books as well this year I believe he made around 3 mil.
Number I gave for the Ducks cap hit doesn't include Weight. As for Neidermayer's so-called retirement trick again - it's a possibility. But as soon as he "unretires" - they'd have to get rid of somebody (and there's really nobody left with that kind of salary - Bertuzzi has negative value). Reason why they had to get rid of MacDonald for Weight (as well as Bryz for nothing) this past season.

Plus I'm assuming the Ducks will spend to the cap limit - which they may not. They were able to spend up to the limit last season as they were flush with cash from their Stanley Cup run the previous year. They didn't make it far this season.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:23 AM   #176 (permalink)
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Also, the Ducks do have another power forward right winger "in the wings" in the name of Bobby Ryan - who you have to think will get a decent shot to make the club next season. With Bert taking up the other top six right winger spot. It's no slam dunk the Ducks will match any offer sheet to Perry (not like the Canucks situation with Kesler - where we not only had the cap space to match the offer sheet WITHOUT dealing anybody - but ZERO depth at the position).

It's the Ducks depth on the right side that has prevented Ryan from getting a long look with the "big club" (along with the fact that power forwards take a little longer to develop).

To make it "look better" Gillis can always offer to make a trade with Burke (ie., something equivilant to a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick in 2009) first then tell Burke if such a deal can't be worked out - tell Burke he intends to give him an offer sheet.

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i'd text my friends that we signed some sub par player to a ridiculous contract when he has no way of checking to find out if he's bull$^@#ing him.


So what you're saying is...Well played?

(PS, sorry, I know how much it must have hurt to think we had that greaseball back for almost $2 million a year. I know I'm going to hell, I might as well have some fun.)
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:33 PM   #178 (permalink)
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Sign Hossa, Rolston, Demitra, and Naslund.

Naslund - Demitra - Hossa
Sedin - Sedin - Rolston
Burrows - Kesler - Hansen
Pyatt & Co.

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Luongo

That is, of course, assuming Hossa doesn't get re signed by Pittsburgh because he's having one hell of a playoffs.
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Sign Hossa, Rolston, Demitra, and Naslund.

Naslund - Demitra - Hossa
Sedin - Sedin - Rolston
Burrows - Kesler - Hansen
Pyatt & Co.

Defense

Luongo

That is, of course, assuming Hossa doesn't get re signed by Pittsburgh because he's having one hell of a playoffs.
I believe Rolston is a priority for the wild so I see him re-signing there. Hossa would be great but his price just went even higher as he's done very well in the playoffs. I would like Nazzy back if we can get someone like Hossa to play with him but I'd pass on Demitra unless we get him only on a two year deal max and for around four per.
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