McNamee says Clemens had affair with country singer

[85Jays]

Originally Posted by phils phanatic

being a good father and being a good husband are 2 completely different things.

No, unless you believe the kids are completely unaffected by a dad who cheats on mom, and I think that would be a rather naive belief.

He's a bad dad, a bad husband, a bad person.

[phils phanatic]

Originally Posted by 85Jays

No, unless you believe the kids are completely unaffected by a dad who cheats on mom, and I think that would be a rather naive belief.

it only affects the mother.it doesnt affect how he treats the kids at all,it doesn't affect love for the children.it does nothing to affect the kids,just the wife.there's no difference in a father who's married cheating on his wife compared to a single father sleeping with another woman regarding being a good father to the child(ren)

[Sportsluvngrl86]

Originally Posted by TestSubjekt

ESPN - Clemens issues statement apologizing for 'mistakes' - MLB

I wonder what mistakes he's talking about, since he still hasn't admitted anything

That's why I think he did the things he's ben accused of doing. If he were innocent, he would not be apologizing for mistakes he has made. This makes him look as guilty as admitting to doing it.

[phils phanatic]

Originally Posted by Sportsluvngrl86

That's why I think he did the things he's ben accused of doing. If he were innocent, he would not be apologizing for mistakes he has made. This makes him look as guilty as admitting to doing it.

he clearly said there was things in the reports that were false but he has mad mistakes

[85Jays]

Originally Posted by phils phanatic

it only affects the mother.it doesnt affect how he treats the kids at all,it doesn't affect love for the children.it does nothing to affect the kids,just the wife.

So, daddy can be shagging everything that moves and ruining mommy's life, and the kids don't care? That's an awfully special world.

there's no difference in a father who's married cheating on his wife compared to a single father sleeping with another woman regarding being a good father to the child(ren)

Yep, there is.

Destroying the family unit through your own selfish desires is being a bad husband and a bad father.

I take it you're not married, and have no kids. Wild guess.

[Korrupt]

I'd have to agree with Jays on this one. Granted, I have no experience with this, but the assumption goes that once you become a father/husband, your desires and wishes become secondary to your family's needs/best interests.

[phils phanatic]

Originally Posted by 85Jays

So, daddy can be shagging everything that moves and ruining mommy's life, and the kids don't care? That's an awfully special world.


Yep, there is.

Destroying the family unit through your own selfish desires is being a bad husband and a bad father.

I take it you're not married, and have no kids. Wild guess.

just a wild guess here but you come from one of those "perfect" families right?i grew up in a household where my dad cheated on my mom plenty of times and i,firsthand,know that it doesn't have any affect on the children at all.they fight about it,w/e i'm involved,i don't give a damn.

[phils phanatic]

Originally Posted by Korrupt

I'd have to agree with Jays on this one. Granted, I have no experience with this, but the assumption goes that once you become a father/husband, your desires and wishes become secondary to your family's needs/best interests.

he obviously had their needs and interests in mind when he was putting food on the table,a huge house(s) over their heads,and buying them the fancy expensive gifts he was known to bring home after roadtrips