Cowboys Off-Season Moves Thread: Discuss predictions, ideas, etc here! - Page 2

trademaster · 01-19-2008, 03:51 AM

As you all know the season is sadly over, but one thing to be excited about is the NFL Draft. We have 2 first round picks No.22(from Clev) and No.29. So there is plenty to talk about.

I think our biggest needs our:

Secondary
Wide Reciever
Running back
Punt Return/Special Teams
Offensive Line depth.

Opinions?

alex124 · 01-23-2008, 12:23 AM

The Dallas Morning News | Dallas Cowboys/NFL news

Trade rumors swirling about Carpenter, Spears
12:59 PM Tue, Jan 22, 2008 | Permalink
Tim MacMahon E-mail News tips

Rumor has it that the Cowboys are shopping former first-round picks DE Marcus Spears and LB Bobby Carpenter at the Senior Bowl.

Carpenter simply isn't a fit in a 3-4 defense, which makes Bill Parcells' decision to pick him pretty puzzling. Carpenter couldn't get on the field in any of the Cowboys' defensive packages this season but was a solid special teams player. He wasn't considered a reach when the Cowboys drafted him 19th overall two years ago, so some 4-3 teams might be interested.

Spears isn't a bad player, but he hasn't lived up to his first-round billing. To use a Tuna term, he's J.A.G. If the Cowboys get rid of Spears, Jay Ratliff could take his job, with Jason Ferguson and Tank Johnson forming a good NT tandem.

Time to give Jerry some advice: What would you want for Spears or Carpenter? I'm not sure the return for either would be more than a second-day pick, so try to be realistic.

alex124 · 01-23-2008, 12:33 AM

Ask PFW: Arizona here we come!

What two or three quality players that are unrestricted free agents do you Andy, Tom and Paul think take a reduction in salary to play in NE?
Mark L

One player to keep an eye is Cowboys OLB Greg Ellis. Following Dallas’ loss to the Giants, Ellis basically said he didn’t want to be a Cowboy anymore, suggesting Anthony Spencer should start next year in his place. I also had a source down in Big D tell me that Ellis wants to go to a Super Bowl contender and mentioned the Patriots as a team he would like to play for. Ellis would be a logical Belichick addition, a hungry veteran who will take less money to come to New England because he wants to win a Super Bowl. Not to mention that Ellis can still play and would really help the team at outside linebacker. Watch out for Ellis this offseason because he doesn’t want to play for the Cowboys anymore. That I know for certain.
-Tom Casale

NEsince92 · 01-23-2008, 12:45 AM

Just FYI ... Casale is usually wrong. I feel bad saying that, because I like the guy... but in general, he's way ahead of himself with the stuff he comes out with.

alex124 · 01-23-2008, 07:14 AM

just throwing it out there to start up some discussion around here.

i'm sure a good portion of the FAs out there this year, specifically the aging ones w/o a ring are thinking of going to NE for less money just so they can win a championship before hanging it up. the caveat, of course, is whether or not NE would be interested in them.

ellis has long burned his bridge with the cowboys, and laurinaitis is staying in school. it's possible imho.

Patronus · 01-23-2008, 05:53 PM

I read the article (which I can't seem to find) that this guy is quoted and in no way did it indicate that Greg no longer wants to be a Cowboy.

He was stating that the team has invested a lot of money in Anthony Spencer and at this point in his career he doesn't want to be a bench or platoon player.

Patronus · 02-14-2008, 09:48 AM

The Cowboys "have every intention" of retaining free agent Ken Hamlin, according to the Dallas Morning News.
The franchise number for safeties is reasonable, so if the sides can't reach a long-term deal, there are other options. Hamlin enjoyed a career best year in 2007. If the Cowboys don't step up, he'd surely have a home in Miami.
Source: Dallas Morning News

RangerFan09 · 02-14-2008, 10:04 AM

They better get him locked up for a few years. And after this past year, he deserves every bit of a new contract.

Patronus · 02-14-2008, 10:15 AM

Exactly! He was one of the few positives about the secondary last year.

Patronus · 02-14-2008, 01:26 PM

The Cowboys informed the agent for Marcus Spears that they are not shopping the fourth-year defensive end.
Rumors swirled at the Senior Bowl that Spears and LB Bobby Carpenter were on the block. Spears is cheaply under contract through 2010, so Dallas will give him at least another year to show he can make a difference.
Source: Dallas Morning News

01-19-2008, 03:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
trademaster Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 557 Points: 1205.00	Dallas Cowboys Draft Needs. As you all know the season is sadly over, but one thing to be excited about is the NFL Draft. We have 2 first round picks No.22(from Clev) and No.29. So there is plenty to talk about. I think our biggest needs our: Secondary Wide Reciever Running back Punt Return/Special Teams Offensive Line depth. Opinions? __________________

01-23-2008, 12:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
alex124 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Bruno, CA Posts: 183 Points: 215.00	Trade rumors swirling about Carpenter, Spears The Dallas Morning News \| Dallas Cowboys/NFL news Trade rumors swirling about Carpenter, Spears 12:59 PM Tue, Jan 22, 2008 \| Permalink Tim MacMahon E-mail News tips Rumor has it that the Cowboys are shopping former first-round picks DE Marcus Spears and LB Bobby Carpenter at the Senior Bowl. Carpenter simply isn't a fit in a 3-4 defense, which makes Bill Parcells' decision to pick him pretty puzzling. Carpenter couldn't get on the field in any of the Cowboys' defensive packages this season but was a solid special teams player. He wasn't considered a reach when the Cowboys drafted him 19th overall two years ago, so some 4-3 teams might be interested. Spears isn't a bad player, but he hasn't lived up to his first-round billing. To use a Tuna term, he's J.A.G. If the Cowboys get rid of Spears, Jay Ratliff could take his job, with Jason Ferguson and Tank Johnson forming a good NT tandem. Time to give Jerry some advice: What would you want for Spears or Carpenter? I'm not sure the return for either would be more than a second-day pick, so try to be realistic. __________________

01-23-2008, 12:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
alex124 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Bruno, CA Posts: 183 Points: 215.00	Ellis To Be A Patriot Next Year? Ask PFW: Arizona here we come! What two or three quality players that are unrestricted free agents do you Andy, Tom and Paul think take a reduction in salary to play in NE? Mark L One player to keep an eye is Cowboys OLB Greg Ellis. Following Dallas’ loss to the Giants, Ellis basically said he didn’t want to be a Cowboy anymore, suggesting Anthony Spencer should start next year in his place. I also had a source down in Big D tell me that Ellis wants to go to a Super Bowl contender and mentioned the Patriots as a team he would like to play for. Ellis would be a logical Belichick addition, a hungry veteran who will take less money to come to New England because he wants to win a Super Bowl. Not to mention that Ellis can still play and would really help the team at outside linebacker. Watch out for Ellis this offseason because he doesn’t want to play for the Cowboys anymore. That I know for certain. -Tom Casale __________________

01-23-2008, 12:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
NEsince92 Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 7,390 Points: 10556.30	Just FYI ... Casale is usually wrong. I feel bad saying that, because I like the guy... but in general, he's way ahead of himself with the stuff he comes out with. __________________

01-23-2008, 07:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
alex124 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Bruno, CA Posts: 183 Points: 215.00	just throwing it out there to start up some discussion around here. i'm sure a good portion of the FAs out there this year, specifically the aging ones w/o a ring are thinking of going to NE for less money just so they can win a championship before hanging it up. the caveat, of course, is whether or not NE would be interested in them. ellis has long burned his bridge with the cowboys, and laurinaitis is staying in school. it's possible imho. __________________

01-23-2008, 05:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
Patronus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 4,195 Points: 14992.70	I read the article (which I can't seem to find) that this guy is quoted and in no way did it indicate that Greg no longer wants to be a Cowboy. He was stating that the team has invested a lot of money in Anthony Spencer and at this point in his career he doesn't want to be a bench or platoon player. __________________ "It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane

02-14-2008, 09:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
Patronus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 4,195 Points: 14992.70	The Cowboys "have every intention" of retaining free agent Ken Hamlin, according to the Dallas Morning News. The franchise number for safeties is reasonable, so if the sides can't reach a long-term deal, there are other options. Hamlin enjoyed a career best year in 2007. If the Cowboys don't step up, he'd surely have a home in Miami. Source: Dallas Morning News

02-14-2008, 10:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
RangerFan09 More Sports Community Mod Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 7,343 Points: 16287.25	They better get him locked up for a few years. And after this past year, he deserves every bit of a new contract.

02-14-2008, 10:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
Patronus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 4,195 Points: 14992.70	Exactly! He was one of the few positives about the secondary last year.

02-14-2008, 01:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Patronus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 4,195 Points: 14992.70	The Cowboys informed the agent for Marcus Spears that they are not shopping the fourth-year defensive end. Rumors swirled at the Senior Bowl that Spears and LB Bobby Carpenter were on the block. Spears is cheaply under contract through 2010, so Dallas will give him at least another year to show he can make a difference. Source: Dallas Morning News

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